March 19th, 2013

This Week’s Q and A with Mister Gurdjieff

Question: What is inspiration?

Answer: Inspiration is an association. It is the work of one center. Inspiration is cheap, rest assured of that. Only conflict, argument, may produce a result.

Whenever there is an active element there is a passive element. If you believe in God, you also believe in the devil. All this has no value. Whether you are good or bad — it is not worth anything. Only a conflict bewteen two sides is worth something. Only when much is accumulated can something new manifiest itself.

At every moment there may be a conflict in you. You never see yourself. You will believe what I say only when you begin to look into yourself — then you will see. If you try to do something you don’t want to do — you will suffer. If you want to do something and don’t do it — you also suffer.

What you like — whether good or bad — is of the same value. Good is a relative concept. Only if you begin to work, your good and bad begin to exist.

From Views for the Real World: Early Talks of Gurdjieff



4 Responses to 'This Week’s Q and A with Mister Gurdjieff'
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  1. Brian remarks:

    Sounds like a Capricorn. And he was. Mercury-Saturn-Sun in Cap. Moon-Mars in detached, analytical Aquarius. Cool and calculating perceptions. I like a lot of what he says but it’s a little too devoid of warmth for me. A little too condemning and condescending even. I guess I have too many planets in all the elements (sun-gemini, moon-pisces, venus-taurus. mars-leo) to be able to subscribe to one experience or perception exclusively. Still I agree with his assertion of most of humanity being asleep. I would argue that he was asleep to some elements of experience as well. It’s the fractured dynamic of being human.


    March 20th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
  2. Hi Brian

    It’s documented that G.’s birthday was in January, but there’s no official verification of his birth year. So I’ve long avoided speculating on the particulars of his natal chart.

    A complex man, for certain, but there’s nothing I’ve come across in reading his writings (or the scores of accounts written by his students and biographers) that feature G. as heartless. I do think his speaking style was designed to be pointed and jar people awake, and the above fragment is from his series of talks gathered in Views of the Real World.

    For an excellent, heartfelt account of the man I’d suggest Fritz Peters’ captivating autobiography Boyhood With Gurdjeiff. You’ll find that book quite a revelation of heart (and lots of humor).

    Thanks for your comment,

    FW


    March 20th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
  3. Brian remarks:

    Hmmm, Wikipedia and’Astrotheme.com’ have his b-day at January 13, 1872. ‘Astrotheme’ even has his birth time. I don’t know a lot about astro t’s accuracy but they do have a ton of well know people’s chart’s, many with birth times. It could be true what you say about his words being used as to jar people awake. It’s just that I have read so many guru’s and leaders work only to find that their ego’s had usurped their wisdom i.e, power went their heads. It’s a human condition, I know. I battle with a balance constantly … there you go, conflict = result. Like I said, I like a lot of his stuff but have my own perceptions of things as well.


    March 20th, 2013 at 11:07 pm
  4. Paul remarks:

    Brian- Why waste your time opining on something you know nothing about?


    July 24th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

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